Jan 30, 2013 11:00pm EST
work. >> the day's other star witness, former congresswoman and shooting victim, gabby giffords left with the aid of her husband, who hardly sounded confident. you can they can get a bill passed? yet another sign the fate of gun control won't be settled at a hearing. >> nancy robinson is executive director. matt, let me start with you. pretty interesting about face by the nra and probably surprising a lot of people watching, but tell me why you don't think background checks, a universal background check is going to work? >> first of all, has there ever been a worse spokesman? seriously. i like the 98 version better. the idea it's a panecea, if you look at the three most recent high profile examples, the roar area shooter purchased guns legally. the only example where a background check might have changed things is in tucson, but we don't even know. it's a counterfactual if you couldn't have bought a gun legally, he would have found it some other way. >> first, even now, we've got limited checks. there's all these loopholes. department of justice says 1.9 million applications to buy g
Jan 30, 2013 4:00pm PST
like wayne lapierre against gabby giffords. >> they're going against the will of the majority of the people. >> exactly. i published an op-ed in the philadelphia inquirer a week ago and in it, i outlined three things we could do to make our streets safer and dry up illegally trafficked guns and i was braced actually for a barrage of angry e-mails from the people from the right and i got nothing but praise. >> look, i'm not -- >> people who describe themselves as -- excuse me. >> i'm not on principle -- >> thank you, thank you. from people who described themselves as right wing or gun nuts and they said they agreed with everything outlined and basically, it was threefold. background checks for all gun sales. increased accountability for gun dealers who are criminals and doing something to reduce purchasing in this country and they agreed with all three. >> so, first of all, the straw purchasing thing, this will lead to gun registration, that's the bottom line. because how do you track the guns? they have to be registered. that's really what this is about. >> register -- i mean, i don'
Jan 29, 2013 11:00pm EST
dangerous lie. >> reporter: when arizona congresswoman gabby giffords was shot, lapierre said it happened not far from a school, a gun-free zone. once again, he lit into his foes. >> it didn't make any difference. their laws don't work. their lies don't ring true. and if tucson tells us anything at all, it tells us this. government failed. >> reporter: now even with newtown still close at hand, he says it is gun control advocates who are endangering america. >> we believe in our right to defend ourselves. and our families, with semiautomatic firearms technology. >> reporter: still, for all his bluster, lapierre has turned the nra into a political juggernaut, amassing more than four million members and pouring $16 million into political races last year alone. making politicians fear not only his bark but also his bite. erin? >> thanks to tom foreman. >>> still to come, controversy? what controversy? if you haven't heard about this, here goes. the question is are companies playing the race card and why are we falling for it. the ad of the super bowl. >>> later in the show, seafoam, as high